Seven Types of Atheism - John Gray Audiobook

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  caesar963
  January 29th, 2019
  

  

  Thanks so much zbatman - I was looking for this on Audible after I heard a great interview with Gray. Of course, then I forgot about it.
  Your efforts are really appreciated!

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  Alt2010
  January 30th, 2019
  

  

  cue triggered christians in 5… 4…

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  caesar963
  January 30th, 2019
  

  

  Uhh, speaking as an entirely untriggered Christian, it’s different when the writer is genuinely incisive and erudite, like John Gray; then everyone can learn something from their reflections.

  Now, if it were cretins like Dawkins or Hitchens (”Ditchens”) - then rational objections should be raised.
  Incidentally, check out Gray’s earlier books like Straw Dogs, it’s a long time, but I remember thinking that they were great.

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  cowlark2000
  March 30th, 2019
  

  “cretins” like “Ditchens”?

  That’s a sentence only a triggered person would type.

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  caesar963
  October 8th, 2019
  

  Still entirely untriggered, cowlark. The language may be colourful, but it’s there to illustrate the contrast. This writer is just better, more informed, coherent & lucid. He actually knows the area & has something useful to contribute.

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  chrisxiii
  December 25th, 2019
  

  This is not rocket science.
  The growing body of scientific evidence shows clearly that the universe had a beginning and was designed.

  Design can only come from a mind.

  To disregard the science is up to each individual, to deny the science is merely irrantional.

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  audiobookpiracyaccount
  December 30th, 2019
  

  Cowlark, I saw another thread where Ceaser made about 7 like dick jokes in reference to Dawkins.

  He sounded pretty triggered when he called him “ole stick Dick Dawkins”.

  It was pretty cringey, and I actually agree that Dawkins is not philosophically rigorous.

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  audiobookpiracyaccount
  December 30th, 2019
  

  I just went back and checked. He called him “sticky Dick Dawkins”, not “stick Dick”. My bad.

  I can be quite silly at times, but I rarely am unintentionally ironic.

  If your bone to pick with Dawkins is that he is disrespectful and not philosophically rigorous, an ironic reaction is giving an unphilosophical dismissal of him followed by a stream of juvenile name calling.

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  caesar963
  April 2nd, 2020
  

  Er, now you’re just being silly. “7 like dick jokes”? A few pungent puns, p’haps. However, with Dawkins, it’s really a victimless crime. There is no there, there, so to speak. All enthusiasts & proponents of eugenics should be treated with appropriate revulsion by civilised society.

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  howlafist
  July 16th, 2020
  

  To label him a proponent of eugenics belies a reliance on either hearsay or knee-jerk reaction to buzzwords. His statement on the matter that made everyone so upset was essentially that humans, like dogs or maize or any other organism, can definitely be, through either selective breeding or more direct genetic manipulation, artificially optimised for some set of traits deemed “desirable” to those optimising. It was a response, and a natural one for an evolutionary biologist to make, to people claiming that, by some miracle of political mandate or religious fervour, the phenomena of natural and artificial selection do not apply to “us”.

  He also immediately followed the statement with a “but of course the potential for rights violations and general suffering make it an extremely dangerous idea” caveat, which everyone ignored.

  It is true that Hitchens was prone to saying dumb and contradictory things, preferring “zingers” and mud-slinging to coherent arguments, and I think his influence on those around him to some extent held them back. Dawkins, however, has always tried to be very careful and measured in his thinking, and the worst he can really be accused of is a lack of tact.

  If you’ve not already, please do at least give The Extended Phenotype a read.

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  caesar963
  March 23rd, 2021
  

  @howlafist - “Abort ‘it’ - and try again” - Dawkin’s responsible tweet to the impressionable wide world, and to a worried, fragile mother, in 2014. Eugenics, as I live and breathe (not that ‘imperfect’ children would be living and breathing, if Dawkins and his ilk have their way). If tw^tter had been a factor during the 1930s, I wonder who would have “liked” that particular comment?

  Half-hearted, perfunctory disclaimers are nauseatingly irrelevant and inadmissible in the case of eugenics.

  As to his being “careful and measured” - no, just no. And his “lack of tact”? I sincerely couldn’t give a flying spaghetti monster.

  Clearly, Hitchens wasn’t the only one “prone to saying dumb and contradictory things.”

  Horsemen? Definitely horse-something…

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